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Heterodork's avatar

Interesting, I appreciate your thoughts. I'm not a scholar, nor do I have friends who are trans but I've dug into some of the earlier theories of gender non-conforming and am familiar with Blanchard's typology.

I recognise their could well be what I might call proto-states, or an underlying ateiology that gives rise to variants like you describe but I'm curious about the degree these states, personas are culture bound, as you allude to in your shifts over time.

I'm wary of typologies because I think they have tended to neglect this aspect, that the thoughts, narratives and personas that people adopt are taken from those already available in the culture. The sexologist who co-formulates these ideas then can contribute to their distinctive perpetuation. A simpler formulation perhaps is that people have underlying states which are somewhat amorphous - these are then reified through cultural reification (interpellation).

This I think should give some humility to the exercise but again not to discount that there might be a 'there' there...

I half wonder some people may suffer a broader difficulty with identity and then gender becomes the content. Something like borderline or the abandoned dissociative identity disorder then might be closer to the underlying condition.

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Kath's avatar

I think this take is a bit outdated, I came of age in the 2010s and came across obvious AAP women, they all went straight to the trans gay man identity. The butch lesbian identity is pretty obscure these days, being a lesbian isn't cool and there isn't much community around the lesbian identity specifically. I know more Gen Z women who came to a masculine lesbian identity AFTER transitioning or disidentifying from womanhood for a time, than the other way around.

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