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Pink_CarbonUnit's avatar

There is so much conflation in the trans debate. You have written eloquently about the conflation in conversion therapy here, and I am concerned about the conflation of homosexuality and being trans. People believe they are the same thing. In fact the whole trans umbrella mixes prepubescent teens & genuine dysphoria with transvestite flashers! It is a real maze for the vast majority of people.

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Shira Batya Lewin Solomons's avatar

With respect to AGP, this of course raises a real question whether conversion therapy could ever be ethical. Apparently in her new book, Debbie Hayton describes asking whether he (as a man) could have conversion therapy, to make his desire to be a woman go away.

On hearing the stories of AGPs it seems undoubtable that their orientation is not conducive to happiness as it obstructs them in forming stable sexual relationships (which are good for men). It is a real question to what extent AGP is innate and to what extent it is aggravated by pornography and by activity like cross-dressing.

Some men learn to manage their AGP and others do not. Is therapy to help men to manage their AGP conversion therapy? And secondly, even if it is conversion therapy, is therefore wrong if it helps them to maintain stable marriages (which they may want)? And what about therapy to help those who are minor attracted to lessen those urges so that they never ever hurt a child?

Yes this is a can of worms, but we can't avoid these conversations.

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